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If, then, the beautiful is the cause of good, the good would come into being through the beautiful; and this is why we are eager for wisdom and all the other beautiful things, because their offspring, the good, is worthy of eagerness, and, from what we are finding, it looks as if the beautiful were a sort of father of the good.

Certainly for what you say is well said, Socrates.

Then is this well said, too, that the father is not the son, and the son not father?

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