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[266c] but I have called them hitherto dialecticians. But tell me now what name to give to those who are taught by you and Lysias, or is this that art of speech by means of which Thrasymachus and the rest have become able speakers themselves, and make others so, if they are willing to pay them royal tribute?

They are royal men, but not trained in the matters about which you ask. I think you give this method the right name when you call it dialectic;

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