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[232c] at the beginning with this question: Is it about divine things which are invisible to others that they make people able to dispute?

That is their reputation, at any rate.

And how about the visible things of earth and heaven and the like?

Those are included, of course.

And furthermore in private conversations, when the talk is about generation and being in general, we know (do we not?) that they are clever disputants themselves and impart equal ability to others.


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