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[249c] or relations could ever come into existence without the state of rest?

Theaetetus
Not at all.

Stranger
What then? Without these can you see how mind could exist or come into existence anywhere?

Theaetetus
By no means.

Stranger
And yet we certainly must contend by every argument against him who does away with knowledge or reason or mind and then makes any dogmatic assertion about anything.

Theaetetus
Certainly.

Stranger
Then the philosopher, who pays the highest honor to these things, must necessarily, as it seems, because of them refuse to accept the theory of those who say the universe is at rest, whether as a unity or in many forms,


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