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[249c] or relations could ever come into existence without the state of rest?

Not at all.

What then? Without these can you see how mind could exist or come into existence anywhere?

By no means.

And yet we certainly must contend by every argument against him who does away with knowledge or reason or mind and then makes any dogmatic assertion about anything.


Then the philosopher, who pays the highest honor to these things, must necessarily, as it seems, because of them refuse to accept the theory of those who say the universe is at rest, whether as a unity or in many forms,

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