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[296c] And the patient so forced might rightly say anything else rather than that he had been treated in a baneful or unscientific way by the physicians who used force upon him.

Younger Socrates
Very true.

Stranger
But what can we call the unscientific error in the field of statesmanship? Is it not baseness and evil and injustice?

Younger Socrates
Certainly.

Stranger
Now if people are forced, contrary to the written laws and inherited traditions, to do what is juster and nobler and better than what they did before,


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