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[297b] with wisdom and science are able to preserve the citizens and make them better than they were, so far as that is possible. Is not this true?

Younger Socrates
There is no denying the truth of what you have just said.

And those other statements cannot be denied, either.

Younger Socrates
What statements?

That no great number of men, whoever they may be, could ever acquire political science and be able to administer a state with wisdom,

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