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[309a] violence, and injustice, it removes by inflicting upon them the punishments of death and exile and deprivation of the most important civic rights.

Younger Socrates
That is about what people say, at any rate.

Stranger
And those in turn who wallow in ignorance and craven humility it places under the yoke of slavery.

Younger Socrates
Quite right.

Stranger
As for the rest of the people, those whose natures are capable, if they get education, of being made into something fine and noble


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