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[20c] However, if this be now clearly proved to us, pleasure is deprived of victory for the good would no longer be identical with it. Is not that true?

Protarchus
It is.

Socrates
And we shall have, in my opinion, no longer any need of distinguishing the kinds of pleasure. But the progress of the discussion will make that still clearer.

Protarchus
Excellent! Just go on as you have begun.

Socrates
First, then, let us agree on some further small points.

Protarchus
What are they?

Socrates
Is the nature of the good necessarily perfect


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