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[20c] However, if this be now clearly proved to us, pleasure is deprived of victory for the good would no longer be identical with it. Is not that true?

It is.

And we shall have, in my opinion, no longer any need of distinguishing the kinds of pleasure. But the progress of the discussion will make that still clearer.

Excellent! Just go on as you have begun.

First, then, let us agree on some further small points.

What are they?

Is the nature of the good necessarily perfect

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