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[34d] but now I think our first task is to take up the nature and origin of desire.

Then let us examine that; for we shall not lose anything.

Oh yes, Protarchus, we shall lose a great deal! When we find what we are seeking we shall lose our perplexity about these very questions.

That is a fair counter; but let us try to take up the next point.

Did we not say just now that hunger, thirst,

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