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Opinions I would grant you, but not the rest.

What? I am afraid we are starting a very considerable discussion.

You are right.

And yet we must consider, thou son of that man,1 whether the discussion is relevant to what has gone before.

Yes, no doubt.

We must dismiss everything else, tedious or otherwise, that is irrelevant.


1 “Son of that man” may mean “son of Philebus,” in so far as Protarchus is a pupil of Philebus, or (so Bury) “son of Gorgias,” the orator and teacher (cf. Plat. Phaedo 58b), or the father of Protarchus may be referred to by the pronoun, possibly because Socrates does not at the moment recall his name or because he wishes to imply that he was a man of mark.

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    • R. G. Bury, The Symposium of Plato, 221C
    • James Adam, The Republic of Plato, 2.368A
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