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[44a] and consider it so.


Do they, then, think they feel pleasure whenever they are not in pain?

That is what they say.

Then they do think they feel pleasure at such times; for otherwise they would not say so.

Most likely.

Certainly, then, they have a false opinion about pleasure, if there is an essential difference between feeling pleasure and not feeling pain.

And we certainly found that difference.

Then shall we adopt the view that there are,

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