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[44b] as we said just now, three states, or that there are only two—pain, which is an evil to mankind, and freedom from pain, which is of itself a good and is called pleasure?

Why do we ask ourselves that question now, Socrates? I do not understand.

No, Protarchus, for you certainly do not understand about the enemies of our friend Philebus.

Whom do you mean?

Certain men who are said to be master thinkers about nature, and who deny the existence of pleasures altogether.

Is it possible?

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