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[61a]

Socrates
Then the perfect, that which is to be desired by all and is altogether good, is neither of these?

Protarchus
Certainly not.

Socrates
We must, then, gain a clear conception of the good, or at least an outline of it, that we may, as we said, know to what the second place is to be assigned.

Protarchus
Quite right.

Socrates
And have we not found a road which leads to the good?

Protarchus
What road?

Socrates
If you were looking for a particular man and


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