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[452b] together with the men, not only the young, but even the older, like old men in gymnasiums,1 when, though wrinkled and unpleasant to look at, they still persist in exercising?” “Yes, on my word,” he replied, “it would seem ridiculous under present conditions.” “Then,” said I, “since we have set out to speak our minds, we must not fear all the jibes2 with which the wits would greet so great a revolution, and the sort of things they would say about gymnastics

1 Cf. Theaetetus 162 B, and the ὀψιμαθής or late learner in Theophrastus'Characters xxvii. 14 Loeb. Euripides Andromache 596 ff. denounces the light attire of Spartan women when exercising.

2 Cf. Propert. iv. 13 Muller.

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