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[503b] in fear1 of starting2 our present debate.” “Most true,” he said; “I remember.” “We shrank, my friend,” I said, “from uttering the audacities which have now been hazarded. But now let us find courage for the definitive pronouncement that as the most perfect3 guardians we must establish philosophers.” “Yes, assume it to have been said,” said he. “Note, then, that they will naturally be few,4 for the different components of the nature which we said their education presupposed rarely consent to grow in one; but for the most part these qualities are found apart.”

1 Cf. 387 B.

2 Cf. the proverbial μὴ κινεῖν τὰ ἀκίνητα, do not move the immovable, “let sleeping dogs lie,” in Laws 684 D-E, 913 B. Cf. also Phileb. 16 C, and the American idiom “start something.”

3 Cf. 503 D. 341 B, 340 E, 342 D.

4 Cf. on 494 A.

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