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[665d]

Athenian
Then where should we put the best element in the State,—that which by age and judgment alike is the most influential it contains,—so that by singing its noblest songs it might do most good? Or shall we be so foolish as to dismiss that section which possesses the highest capacity for the noblest and most useful songs?

Clinias
We cannot possibly dismiss it, judging from what you now say.

Athenian
What seemly method can we adopt about it? Will the method be this?

Clinias
What?

Athenian
Every man as he grows older becomes reluctant to sing songs, and takes less pleasure in doing so; and when compelled to sing,

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