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[644d] and in addition to all these there is “calculation,” pronouncing which of them is good, which bad; and “calculation,” when it has become the public decree of the State, is named “law.”

Clinias
I have some difficulty in keeping pace with you: assume, however, that I do so, and proceed.

Megillus
I am in exactly the same predicament.

Athenian
Let us conceive of the matter in this way. Let us suppose that each of us living creatures is an ingenious puppet of the gods, whether contrived by way of a toy of theirs or for some serious purpose—for as to that we know nothing;

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