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in making this second attempt to investigate legislation, we shall listen to a discourse that is no worse and no shorter than that we have just been listening to, I for one would go a long way to hear it; indeed, this would seem quite a short day, although it is, as a matter of fact, close on midsummer.AthenianSo it seems that we must proceed with our enquiry.MegillusMost certainly.AthenianLet us, then, place ourselves in imagination at that epoch when Lacedaemon, together with Argos and Messene and the adjoining districts, had become completely subject,
Megillus, to your forefathers. They determined next, according to the tradition, to divide their host into three parts, and to establish three States,—Argos, Messene and Lacedaemon.MegillusVery true.AthenianAnd Temenus became King of Argos, Cresphontes of Messene, and Proclus and Eurysthenes of Lacedaemon.MegillusOf course.AthenianAnd all the men of that time swore that they would assist these kings
Megillus, to your forefathers. They determined next, according to the tradition, to divide their host into three parts, and to establish three States,—Argos, Messene and Lacedaemon.MegillusVery true.AthenianAnd Temenus became King of Argos, Cresphontes of Messene, and Proclus and Eurysthenes of Lacedaemon.MegillusOf course.AthenianAnd all the men of that time swore that they would assist these ki
MegillusWhat do you mean? What fault have you to find with it?AthenianThis, that whereas there were three States settled, two of the threeviz., Argos and Messene,—the third being Laconia. speedily wrecked their constitution and their laws, and one only remained stable—and that was your State, Megillus.MegillusThe question is no easy one.AthenianYet surely in our consideration and enquiry into this subject, indulging in an old man's sober play with laws, we ought to proceed on our jour
formed a grave charge against the Greeks. It was in view of all this that the Dorian host was at that time organizes and distributed amongst three States under brother princes, the sons of Heraclesviz., Temenus, king of Argos, Procles and Eurystheus of Laconia, Cresphontes of Messene.; and men thought it admirably devised, and in its equipment superior even to the host that had sailed to Troy. For men reckoned, first, that in the sons of Heracles they had better chiefs than the Pelopidae,viz., Agamemnon and Menelaus. and further,
Athenian“Seest thou, O legislator,”—it is thus we might playfully address one of those who lightly start on the task of legislation— “how many are the rights pertaining to rulers, and how they are essentially opposed to one another? Herein we have now discovered a source of factions, which thou must remedy. So do thou, in the first place, join with us in enquiring how it came to pass, and owing to what transgression of those rights, that the kings of Argos and Messene brought ruin alike on themselves and on the Hellen
AthenianThe way they repulsed the Persians, Clinias, was disgraceful. But when I say “disgraceful,” I do not imply that they did not win fine victories both by land and sea in those victorious campaigns: what I call “disgraceful” is this,—that, in the first place, one only of those three States defended Greece, while the other two were so basely corrupt that one of themMessene actually prevented Lacedaemon from assisting Greece by warring against her with all its might, and Argos, the other,—which stood first of the three in the days of the Dorian
when summoned to help against the barbarian, paid no heed and gave no help. Cp. Hdt. 7.148ff. The reference is to the Persian invasion under Mardonius in 490 B.C.; but there is no other evidence for the charge here made against Messene. Many are the discreditable charges one would have to bring against Greece in relating the events of that war; indeed, it would be wrong to say that Greece defended herself, for had not the bondage that threatened her been warded off by the concerted policy of the Athenians
except the Lacedaemonians; and they were hindered by the war they were then waging against Messene, and possibly by other obstacles, about which we have no information, with the result that they arrived too late by one single day for the battle which took place at Marathon. After this, endless threats and stories of huge preparations kept arriving from the Persian king. Then, as time went on, news came that Darius was dead, and that his son, who had succeeded to the throne, was a young hothead, and still keen on the projected expedition.