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Plato, Republic, Book 5, section 454d (search)
that was pertinentCf. Laches 190 DEI)S O(\ TEI/NEIN DOKEI=, Protagoras 345 B. to the pursuits themselves?” “We meant, for example, that a man and a woman who have a physician'sAdam makes difficulties, but Cf. Laws 963 ANOU=N . . . KUBERNHTIKO\N ME\N KAI\ I)ATRIKO\N KAI\ STRATHGIKO/N. The translation follows Hermann despite the objection that this reading forestalls the next sentence. Cf. Campbell ad loc. and Apelt, Woch. für klass. Phil., 1903, p. 344. mind have the same nature. Don't you think so?” “I do.” “But that a man physician and a man carpenter have different natures?” “Certainly, I suppose.”“Similarly, then,” said I, “if it appears
Plato, Republic, Book 5, section 479b (search)
n their opposites?” “No,” he said, “each of them will always hold of, partake of, both.” “Then is each of these multiples rather than it is not that which one affirms it to be?” “They are like those jesters who palter with us in a double sense at banquets,” he replied, “and resemble the children's riddleThe scholiast (Hermann vi. 34) quotes the riddle in two forms. It might run in English—“A tale there is, a man not yet a man,/ Seeing, saw not, a bird and not a bird,/ Perching upon a bough and not a bough,/ And hit it—not, with a stone and not a stone.” The key words of the answer are eunuch, bat, reed, pumice-stone. Cf. also Athenaeus 448 E, 452 E,
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 489b (search)
m FU/SIN E)/XEI cf. 473 A, Herod. ii. 45, Dem. ii. 26. Similarly E)/XEI LO/GON, Rep. 378 E, 491 D, 564 A, 610 A, Phaedo 62 B and D, Gorg. 501 A, etc. course of things that the pilot should beg the sailors to be ruled by him or that wise men should go to the doors of the rich.This saying was attributed to Simonides. Cf. schol. Hermann, Plato, vol. vi. p. 346, Joel, Der echte und der xenophontische Sokrates, ii.1 p .81, Aristot.Rhet. 1301 a 8 Cf. Phaedr. 245 AE)PI\ POIHTIKA\S QU/RAS,Thompson on Phaedr. 233 E, 364 BE)PI\ PLOUSI/WN QU/RAS, Laws 953 DE)PI\ TA\S TW=N PLOUSI/WN KAI\ SOFW=N QU/RAS, and for the idea cf. also 568 A and Theaet. 170 A