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pleased by their words on this occasion, and said:
It was excellently spoken of you, sons of the man we
know,
Cf. my note in Class.
Phil. 1917, vol. xii. p. 436. It does not refer to
Thrasymachus facetiously as Adam fancies, but is an honorific expression
borrowed from the Pythagoreans. in the beginning of the elegy
which the admirerPossibly Critias.
of Glaucon wrote when you distinguished yourselves in the battle of
MegaraProbably the battle of 409 B.C.,
reported in Diodor. Sic. xiii. 65. Cf. Introduction p.
viii.—'Sons of Ariston,The
implied pun on the name is made explicit in 580 C-D. Some have held that
Glaucon and Adeimantus we
from another. But in the case of a faculty I look to one
thing only—that to which it is related and what it effects,Cf. my note on Simplic.De An.
146. 21, Class. Phil. xvii. p. 143. and it is in this way
that I come to callCf. Ion
537 DOU(/TW KALW= TH\N ME\N A)/LLHN, TH\N DE\
A)/LLHN TE/XNHN. each one of them a faculty, and
that which is related toE)PI/: Cf. Parmenides 147
D-EE(/KASTON TW=N O)NOMA/TWN OU)K E)PI/ TINI
KALEI=S; the same thing and accomplishes the same
thing I call the same faculty, and that to another I call other. How about
you, what is your practice?” “The same,” he
said. “To return, then, my friend,” said I,
“to science or true knowledge, do you s
that it is ever enamored of the kind of knowledge which
reveals to them something of that essence which is eternal, and is not
wandering between the two poles of generation and decay.Lit. “is not made to wander by generation and
decay.” Cf. Crat. 411 C, Phaedo
95 E, whence Aristotle took his title. See Class. Phil. xvii. (1922) pp. 334-352.”
“Let us take that as agreed.” “And,
further,” said I, “that their desire is for the whole of
it and that they do not willingly renounce a small or a great, a more
precious or a less honored, part of it. That was the point of our former
illustrationSupra 474 C-D. drawn
from lovers and men covetous of honor.” “You are
right,” he said. “Consider, then, next whethe