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the authors of that instrument did not understand their own work. He quoted from the debates of 1788, from the opinions of Madison, the speeches of Calhoun, to show that the ground occupied in this Convention was untenable. Mr. Dorman, of Rockbridge, gave reasons why he should vote against the amendment, and wanted it to be known that his course was not in opposition to any well understood doctrine of State-rights, or in favor of any idea of consolidation. Mr. Baylor, of Augusta, saidign and independent to the extent that she had powers delegated to her by the Federal Constitution. He was opposed to the amendment. Mr. Fisher, of Northampton, after an allusion to the State-Rights doctrine advanced by the gentleman from Rockbridge, said that the position occupied by the gentleman from Harrison was as hostile to the report of the committee, as was the position occupied by the State-Rights party in this Convention. Mr. Carlile hoped the gentleman would not pronounce h
ed the examples of the Papal States, and Turkey in Europe, who were sovereign, though subject to the dominion of a controlling power. He denied that the thirteen original States of this Union, in delegating their powers to the Federal Government, also resigned their sovereignty. It was not a gift, but a grant in trust, which deprived the grantor of nothing. Mr. Wise continued to discuss the subject in a general way, for some time, urging his views with much force. Mr. Moore, of Rockbridge, asked the Chair if the rule excluding gentlemen from speaking more than twice on any question applied to the Committee of the Whole? The Chairman answered negatively. Mr. Moore said it was a pity it did not. Mr. Seawell, of Gloucester, offered an amendment to the amendment offered by the gentleman from Middlesex, namely, to insert in the fifth line, after the word "sovereignties," the words, "and still are sovereign," leaving the resolution in other respects as reported fr