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Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 487a (search)
“Nay, most necessary,” he said. “Is there any fault, then, that you can find with a pursuit which a man could not properly practise unless he were by nature of good memory, quick apprehension, magnificent,MEGALOPREPH/S is frequently ironical in Plato, but not here. For the list of qualities of the ideal student cf. also 503 C, Theaet. 144 A-B, and Friedländer, Platon, ii. p. 418. Cf. Laws 709 E on the qualifications of the young tyrant, and Cic.Tusc. v. 24, with Renaissance literature on education. gracious, friendly and akin to truth, justice, bravery and sobriety?” “MomusThe god of censure, who finds fault with the gods in Lucian's dialogues. Cf. Overbe
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 487b (search)
would be able to controvert these statements of yours. But, all the same, those who occasionally hear youCf. Unity of Plato's Thought, p. 35 n. 236, and What Plato Said, p. 488 on Crito 48 B. A speaker in Plato may thus refer to any fundamental Platonic doctrine. Wilamowitz' suggested emendation (Platon, ii. p. 205)A(\ A)\N LE/GH|S is due to a misunderstanding of this. argue thus feel in this wayAlocus classicus for Plato's anticipation of objections. Cf. 475 B, Theaet. 166 A-B, Rep. 609 C, 438-439, and Apelt, Republic, p. 492. Plato does it more tactfully than Isocrates, e.g.Demon. 44.: They think that
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 488c (search)
t his ear, they put the others to death or cast them outThe word E)KBA/LLONTAS helps the obvious allegory, for it also means banish. from the ship, and then, after bindingHere figurative. Cf. Gorg. 482 E, Theaet. 165 E. Infra 615 E it is used literally. and stupefying the worthy shipmasterCf. Polit. 297 E. The expression is slightly ironical. Such is frequently the tone of GENNAI=OS in Plato. Cf. Rep. 454 A, 363 A, 544 C, 348 CHipp. Min. 370 D, Soph. 231 B, Hipp. Maj. 290 , Polit. 274 E. with mandragora or intoxication or otherwise, they take command of the ship, consume its stores and, drinking and feasting, make such a voyageCf. Polit. 302 A, Laws 906 E, Jebb on Soph.Antig. 189-190. of it as is to be
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 488d (search)
and TE/XNH and is in any case improbable, because the sentence as a whole is concerned with the attitude of the true pilot (statesman), which may be represented by the words of Burke to his constituents, “I could hardly serve you as I have done and court you too.” Cf. Sidgwick, “On a Passage in Plato's Republic,“Journal of Philology, v. pp. 274-276, and my notes in A.J.P. xiii. p. 364 and xvi. p. 234. that the true pilot must give his attentionFor the force of the article cf. Thucyd. ii. 65TO\ E)PI/FQONON LAMBA/NEI, and my article in T.A.P.A. 1893, p. 81, n. 6. Cf. also
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 489b (search)
odern readers in Matthew Arnold's account in God and the Bible of his quest for the meaning of god, which in turn is imitated in Mr. Updegraff's New World. It lends vivacity and interest to Pascal's Provinciales and many other examples of it can be found in modern literature. The classical instance of it in Plato is Socrates' narrative in the Phaedo of his search for a satisfactory explanation of natural phenomena, 96 A ff. In the Sophist the argument is represented as an effort to track and capture the sophist. And the figure of the hunt is common in the dialogues(Cf. Vol. I. p. 365). Cf. also Rep. 455 A-B, 474 B, 588 C-D, 612 C,
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 492b (search)
nch Revolution: “Great is the combined voice of men . . . . He who can resist that has his footing somewhere beyond time.” For the public as the great sophist cf. Brimley, Essays, p. 224 (The Angel in the House): “The miserable view of life and its purposes which society instils into its youth of both sexes, being still, as in Plato's time, the sophist par excellence of which all individual talking and writing sophists are but feeble copies.” Cf. Zeller, Ph. d. Gr. 4 II. 1. 601 “Die sophistische Ethik ist seiner Ansicht nach die einfache Konsequenz der Gewöhnlichen.” This is denied by some recent critics. The question is a logomachy. Of course there
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 493d (search)
xplanation. See Frazer, Pausanias, ii. p. 264. will compel him to give the public what it likes, but that what it likes is really good and honorable, have you ever heard an attempted proof of this that is not simply ridiculousKATAGE/LASTON is a strong word. “Make the very jack-asses laugh” would give the tone. Cf. Carlyle, Past and Present, iv. “impartial persons have to say with a sigh that . . . they have heard no argument advanced for it but such as might make the angels and almost the very jack-asses weep. Cf. also Isoc.Panegyr. 14, Phil. 84, 101, Antid. 247, Peace 36, and KATAGE/LASTOS in Plato passim, e.g.Symp. 189
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 497b (search)
“None whatever,” I said; “but the very ground of my complaint is that no polityKATA/STASIS=constitution in both senses. Cf. 414 A, 425 C, 464 A, 493 A, 426 C, 547 B. So also in the Laws. The word is rare elsewhere in Plato. of today is worthy of the philosophic nature. This is just the cause of its perversion and alteration; as a foreign seed sown in an alien soil is wont to be overcome and die outFor E)CI/THLON Cf. Critias 121 A. into the native growth,This need not be a botanical error. in any case the meaning is plain. Cf. Tim. 57 B with my emendation. so this kind does not preserve its own quality but falls away and degenerates into an alien type. But if
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 500c (search)
to turn his eyes downward upon the petty affairs of men, and so engaging in strife with them to be filled with envy and hate, but he fixes his gaze upon the things of the eternal and unchanging order, and seeing that they neither wrong nor are wronged by one another, but all abide in harmony as reason bids, he will endeavor to imitate them and, as far as may be, to fashion himself in their likeness and assimilateA)FOMOIOU=SQAI suggests the O(MOI/WSIS QE/W|Theaet. 176 B. Cf. What Plato Said, p. 578. himself to them. Or do you think it possible not to imitate the things to which anyone attaches himself with admiration?” “Impossible,” he said. “Then the lover of
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 508a (search)
” “Why, the one that you too and other people mean,” he said; “for your question evidently refers to the sun.Cf. my Idea of good in Plato's Republic pp. 223-225, Reinhardt, Kosmos und Sympathie, pp. 374-384. Mediaeval writers have much to say of Platos mysterious Tagathon. Aristotle, who rejects the idea of good, uses TA)GAQO/N in much the same way. It is naive to take the language of Platonic unction too literally. Cf. What Plato Said, pp. 394 ff.” “Is not this, then, the relation of vision to that divinity?” “What?” “Neither vision itself nor its vehicle, which we call the eye, is identical with the sun.”
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