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Plato, Republic, Book 4, section 420e (search)
For in like manner we could“We know how to.” For the satire of the Socialist millenium which follows cf. Introduction p. xxix, and Ruskin, Fors Clavigera. Plato may have been thinking of the scene on the shield of Achilles, Iliad xviii. 541-560. clothe the farmers in robes of state and deck them with gold and bid them cultivate the soil at their pleasure, and we could make the potters recline on couches from left to righti.e. so that the guest on the right hand occupied a lower place and the wine circulated in the same direction. Many write E)PI\ DECIA/, but AE)PIDE/CIA. “Forever, 'tis a single word. Our rude forefathers thought it two.” before the fir
Plato, Republic, Book 5, section 453a (search)
Pindar, Pyth. i. 35. Cf. Pindar, fr. 108 A Loeb, Laws 775 E, Sophocles, fr. 831 (Pearson), Antiphon the Sophist, fr. 60 (Diels).?” “Far the best,” he said. “Shall we then conduct the debate with ourselves in behalf of those othersThis pleading the opponent's case for him is common in Plato. Cf. especially the plea for Protagoras in Theaetetus 166-167. so that the case of the other side may not be taken defenceless and go by defaultApparently a mixture of military and legal phraseology. Cf.E)KPE/RSH| in Protagoras 340 A, Iliad v. 140TA\ D' E)RH=MA FOBEI=TAI, and the legal phrase E)RH/MHN KATADIAITA=N or OFL
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 492c (search)
Horace, Odes i.20.7 “datus in theatro cum tibi plausus,” and also the account of the moulding process in Protag. 323-326. In such case how do you think the young man's heart, as the saying is, is moved within him?What would be his plight, his state of mind; how would he feel? Cf. Shorey in Class. Phil. v. (1910) pp. 220-221, Iliad xxiv. 367, Theognis 748KAI\ TI/NA QUMO\N E)/XWN;Symp. 219 D 3TI/NA OI)/ESQE/ ME DIA/NOIAN E)/XEIN; Eurip.I.A. 1173TI/N' E)N DO/MOIS ME KARDI/AN E(/CEIN DOKEI=S; What private teaching do you think will hold out and not rather be swept away by the torrent of censure and applause, and borne off on its current, so that he will
Plato, Republic, Book 6, section 506d (search)
well,” humorous emphasis on the point that it is much easier to “define” the conventional virtues than to explain the “sanction.” Cf. Symp. 189 A, Euthydem. 298 D-E, Herod. viii. 66. It is frequent in the Republic. Ritter gives forty-seven cases. I have fifty-four! But the point that matters is the humorous tone. Cf. e.g. 610 E. content me, my dear fellow,” I said, “but I fear that my powers may fail and that in my eagerness I may cut a sorry figure and become a laughing-stock.Excess of Zeal,PROQUMI/A, seemed laughable to the Greeks. Cf. my interpretation of Iliad i. in fine, Class. Phil. xxii. (1927) pp. 222-223. N