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Dudley Carleton (search for this): chapter 8.82
in London, and the letters of the Colonial authorities, also other papers from 1621 to 1625, and a smaller folio in manuscript containing copies of earlier papers. I have given this detail of the Rev. Mr. Neill's sources of information in order to show upon what authority I stand whenever hereinafter I shall cite him as a witness. And now let us revert to Mr. Grigsby's theory. On page 52 of Neill, it appears that John Chamberlaine wrote on the 18th December, 1611, from London, to Sir Dudley Carleton, ambassador at the Hague, as follows: Newport, the Admiral of Virginia, is newly come home, and brings word of the arrival there of Sir Thomas Gates, &c. On the same page, and in reference to Chamberlaine's foregoing remark, Neill says: After this, Newport was chosen one of the six masters of the Royal Navy, and was engaged by the East India Company to escort Sir Robert Shirley to Persia; and for his authority Mr. Neill quotes Howe's continuation of Stowe's chronicles of England. W
Collingwood (search for this): chapter 8.82
n, an attempt was made to obtain the records of the Company by their opponents. --[Neill.] Mr. Neill, in the preface to his history of that Company, states that Collingwood, the Secretary of the Company, informed Sir John Danvers, a prominent member of the Company, of this attempt, whereupon it was decided to have an accurate copy ribed the minutes. After the work was done on sheets of folio paper, each page, in order to prevent interpolation, was carefully compared with the originals by Collingwood, and then subscribed Con. Collingwood, and the whole (bound in two volumes, the first of 354 pages and the second of 387 pages, containing the Company's TransaCollingwood, and the whole (bound in two volumes, the first of 354 pages and the second of 387 pages, containing the Company's Transactions from April 28, 1619, to June 7, 1624), was taken by Danvers to Henry Wriothesley, Earl of Southampton, who was President of the Company. Space does not permit me to trace here the travels of these manuscript volumes through the hands and ownership of different parties in England and Virginia, until they came at length int
Thomas Gates (search for this): chapter 8.82
rlier papers. I have given this detail of the Rev. Mr. Neill's sources of information in order to show upon what authority I stand whenever hereinafter I shall cite him as a witness. And now let us revert to Mr. Grigsby's theory. On page 52 of Neill, it appears that John Chamberlaine wrote on the 18th December, 1611, from London, to Sir Dudley Carleton, ambassador at the Hague, as follows: Newport, the Admiral of Virginia, is newly come home, and brings word of the arrival there of Sir Thomas Gates, &c. On the same page, and in reference to Chamberlaine's foregoing remark, Neill says: After this, Newport was chosen one of the six masters of the Royal Navy, and was engaged by the East India Company to escort Sir Robert Shirley to Persia; and for his authority Mr. Neill quotes Howe's continuation of Stowe's chronicles of England. We have no record showing that Newport ever returned to Virginia after 1611, and we have the following very strong grounds for believing that he never d
Alexander Whittaker (search for this): chapter 8.82
e Relation of such occurrences and acidents of noate as hath happened in Virginia. * * * Written by Captaine Smith, Coronell of said Collony, to a worshipfull friend of his in England, &a., &c. I have never seen this Relation. So the phrase Whittaker's News, would have some significance when mentioned by one Londoner to another in reference to Good Newes from Virginia, written in 1613, by the Rev. Alexander Whittaker, Minister of Henrico, Virginia, and sent by him in that year to the Companthe Rev. Alexander Whittaker, Minister of Henrico, Virginia, and sent by him in that year to the Company in London, and afterwards published there. I have not read from Newport's pen any account of his discoveries and acts in Virginia, but I have no doubt that on one of his early returns to England from Virginia, He sailed to and fro many times between England and Virginia in the four years elapsing between 1607 and 1611. he did publish a brief pamphlet respecting the affairs and prospects of the Colony, which probably was entitled or was popularly known as Newport's News from Virginia, and
Thomas Nuce (search for this): chapter 8.82
8th, 1620, Neill, in his History of the Virginia Company of London, says, Thomas Nuce settled at Elizabeth City, (now Hampton), but soon died. An entry on the re letter from Virginia, by a member of the Company, written by the wife of deputy Nuce, deceased in Virginia. Thomas Nuce had been appointed deputy by the Company. onThomas Nuce had been appointed deputy by the Company. on which date he, (being now present in London, as the record of the Virginia Company of London states,) was appointed, by a resolution of the Company, to be a Deputy,n honor of, and to commemorate the joint surnames of Captain Newport and Captain Thomas Nuce or Newce. The distinguished citizen, above alluded to, is not the firas I have learned, the first one who has connected the name of the deputy Thomas Nuce with it. That eminent citizen of Virginia, the late Hugh Blair Grigsby, in a letWilliam Neuse's The name is variously spelled in the records, viz.: as Neuse, Nuce, Newce, Nuse, and Nuice; but we have no trace of Sir William's own mode of spell
Francis Wyatt (search for this): chapter 8.82
of his hobnobbing in that year with Sir William Neuse in the Colony, and of his then naming the eastern promontory at the mouth of James river Newport-Newce, in commemoration of Sir William and himself. Mr. Grigsby was most evidently misled by the historian, Beverly, whose History of Virginia appeared in 1705. Mr. Grigsby says, that of all writers on the history of Virginia, Beverly alone alludes to the origin of the name. He quotes Beverly as saying: It was in October, 1621, that Sir Francis Wyatt arrived Governor, and in November Captain Newport arrived with fifty men imported at his own charge, besides passengers, and made a plantation on Newport's News, naming it after himself. Mr. Grigsby then dwells on the important fact that Newport named the place after himself, meaning, of course, that he (Newport) named it in November, 1621. But Mr. Grigsby's authority, (Beverly,) while against his theory so far as the word Newce is concerned, (for Beverly writes it News, and puts N
William Neuse (search for this): chapter 8.82
ppened eleven years before Newport's News was named. Now, with respect to Newport's and Sir William Neuse's The name is variously spelled in the records, viz.: as Neuse, Nuce, Newce, Nuse, and r in the Colony after 1611, and we have no record of his ever having visited Ireland while Sir William Neuse was a planter in Ireland before going to Virginia [Neill], and he did not visit that Colonive life to his quiet home on his Virginia plantation, of his hobnobbing in that year with Sir William Neuse in the Colony, and of his then naming the eastern promontory at the mouth of James river N ascertain, but that it was so known prior to the advent into Virginia (autumn of 1621) of Sir William Neuse, we have the following very good reason to believe. At page 274 of Neill's History begithat the word Newes in the foregoing quotation was not intended by the writer to represent Sir William Neuse's (or Newce's) surname, we must not overlook the significant fact that the name Newport is
Howe (search for this): chapter 8.82
on the 18th December, 1611, from London, to Sir Dudley Carleton, ambassador at the Hague, as follows: Newport, the Admiral of Virginia, is newly come home, and brings word of the arrival there of Sir Thomas Gates, &c. On the same page, and in reference to Chamberlaine's foregoing remark, Neill says: After this, Newport was chosen one of the six masters of the Royal Navy, and was engaged by the East India Company to escort Sir Robert Shirley to Persia; and for his authority Mr. Neill quotes Howe's continuation of Stowe's chronicles of England. We have no record showing that Newport ever returned to Virginia after 1611, and we have the following very strong grounds for believing that he never did return after that year to the Colony. After his return to England from Virginia in December, 1611, and his subsequent appointment to a high position in the Royal Navy, it seems he sailed for the East Indies, engaging in the meantime to convoy Sir Robert Shirley's ship to Persia. It is highl
Barre (search for this): chapter 8.82
shingly fatal to that theory, and is conclusive proof that the type-setter carelessly printed the word Nuse for News; pronouncing, in his mind, the word Nuse as if rhyming with Fuse, and therefore sounding, as to its last three letters, precisely like the sound of the last three letters of the word News. Mr. Grigsby, in his letter to Mr. Deane, cites the compound name Newport-Pagnall, in England, and the following compound names in this country, viz: Hampden-Sidney, Randolph-Macon, Wilkes-Barre, and Say-Brook, Written at the present day Wilkesbarre and Saybrook. in support of his theory; as if he should assert, by way of argument: Because those compound names are what they are, and were originated, as everybody knows, to perpetuate in each case the united surnames of two persons, therefore the compound name Newport's News is orthographically incorrect, and is but a corruption of what I assert is the true and original name, i. e. Newport Newce. I hardly ever saw an argument or
Nuse (search for this): chapter 8.82
Sir William Neuse's The name is variously spelled in the records, viz.: as Neuse, Nuce, Newce, Nuse, and Nuice; but we have no trace of Sir William's own mode of spelling it. alleged joint presenceMr. D. adds, Another letter of April 8th of that year, (the same which speaks of the death of Captain Nuse, referred to in a note further on,) is dated from Newport News. That the writer of the last the surname of Sir William or of Captain Thomas Neuse, we know when we find him adverting to Captain Nuse's death in that very letter. This shows conclusively that he understood the name of the poinneral History the name appears repeatedly as Nuport's News and Nupor's News, and once as Nuport's Nuse, it is yet absolutely certain that all these instances are typographical errors; for, to say nothin Smith's General History. To some persons, not exercising due reflection, the name Newport's Nuse, quoted a few lines back, might appear, at first blush, as sustaining Mr. Grigsby's theory, but t
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