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Clinias
How are they wrong?

Athenian
By “nature” they intend to indicate production of things primary; but if soul shall be shown to have been produced first (not fire or air), but soul first and foremost,—it would most truly be described as a superlatively “natural” existence. Such is the state of the case, provided that one can prove that soul is older than body, but not otherwise.

Clinias
Most true.

Athenian
Shall we then, in the next place, address ourselves to the task of proving this?

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