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Socrates
And this it was, I believe, which created false opinion and the holding of false opinions, was it not?Protarchus
Yes.Socrates
Very well, must we not also grant that pleasure and pain stand in the same relation to realities?Protarchus
What do you mean?Socrates
I mean that he who feels pleasure at all in any way or manner always really feels pleasure, but it is sometimes not based upon realities, whether present or past, and often, perhaps most frequently, upon things which will never even be realities in the future.
And this it was, I believe, which created false opinion and the holding of false opinions, was it not?Protarchus
Yes.Socrates
Very well, must we not also grant that pleasure and pain stand in the same relation to realities?Protarchus
What do you mean?Socrates
I mean that he who feels pleasure at all in any way or manner always really feels pleasure, but it is sometimes not based upon realities, whether present or past, and often, perhaps most frequently, upon things which will never even be realities in the future.