Plato, Alcibiades 2, section 144e

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[144e] we so confidently intend to say or do?

Alcibiades
I think so.

Socrates
Well, take the orators, for example: they either know, or think they know, how to advise us on various occasions—some about war and peace, and others about building walls or fitting up harbors;

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 8 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1955.

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