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[236a] for these are my two instructors, the one in music, the other in rhetoric. So it is not surprising that a man who is trained like me should be clever at speaking. But even a man less well taught than I, who had learnt his music from Lamprus and his rhetoric from Antiphon the Rhamnusian,1—even such a one, I say, could none the less win credit by praising Athenians before an Athenian audience.

Menexenus
What, then, would you have to say, if you were required to speak?

Socrates
Nothing, perhaps, myself of my own invention;


1 Antiphon, born in 480 B.C., was the first of the ten great Attic Orators.

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