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Pittsylvania (Virginia, United States) (search for this): article 1
the propositions under consideration. He advocated the amendment offered by the gentleman from Gloucester, and made an argument upon the question of sovereignty. Mr. Moore, of Rockbridge, hoped the discussion would shortly terminate. It was the most idle debate that he had ever listened to. It was a mere disagreement upon the meaning of the word sovereignty. He thought the question should be taken without further delay. [Voices.--"Question," "Question."] Mr. Tredway, of Pittsylvania, desired to explain the reason which would influence him in giving his vote. The amendment proposed be regarded as a truism, but its insertion here was unnecessary, and would only involve the Convention in difficulty. The Chairman said the question was upon the amendment offered by the gentleman from Powhatan, to the amendment of the gentleman from Gloucester. Mr. Wise called for the reading of the amendment, and it was accordingly read by the Secretary. Mr. Wise then brie
Rockbridge (Virginia, United States) (search for this): article 1
n warning that he would bring in an Ordinance of Secession to-morrow morning, and would take them directly to the point at issue. Mr. Blakey, of Madison, replied to Mr. Branch, and maintained that members were not liable to a charge of delaying business because they desired to perfect and render acceptable the propositions under consideration. He advocated the amendment offered by the gentleman from Gloucester, and made an argument upon the question of sovereignty. Mr. Moore, of Rockbridge, hoped the discussion would shortly terminate. It was the most idle debate that he had ever listened to. It was a mere disagreement upon the meaning of the word sovereignty. He thought the question should be taken without further delay. [Voices.--"Question," "Question."] Mr. Tredway, of Pittsylvania, desired to explain the reason which would influence him in giving his vote. The amendment proposed be regarded as a truism, but its insertion here was unnecessary, and would only
Northampton (Massachusetts, United States) (search for this): article 1
r the report of the Committee on Federal Relations, the pending question being on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Gloucester, (Mr. Seawell,) to insert in the fifth line of the first resolution, after the word"sovereignties, " the words "and still are sovereign." Mr. Scott, of Powhatan, moved to amend the amendment by adding after the word "sovereign," the words "over all powers not granted to the United States by the Constitution of the United States." Mr. Fisher, of Northampton, asked if there was any person in the United States who deemed that proposition? The Chairman.--That is not for the Chair to decide. Mr. Fisher desired to have something tangible to vote upon. Mr. Conrad, of Frederick, thought that altogether too much stress was placed upon the word sovereign. It was a word more applicable to European nations than to a Republican country. He thought there was no more relevancy in the insertion of the proposed amendment than in the inserti
West Virginia (West Virginia, United States) (search for this): article 1
was staring us in the face, it was urged on this floor that action on this important subject must be postponed to an adjourned session. If this course was followed, no one could see where it would end. Gentlemen had spoken of the people of Western Virginia as likely to become abolitionize. He would remind them that the course they were pursuing here was the very thing calculated to bring about such a result. Mr. Willey, of Monongalia, desired to explain briefly the reasons which induced me being inopportune for its consideration, it would tend to quiet agitation, and remove the heart burnings at present existing. He denied that it was a sectional question; for the entire property of the working man in Eastern as well as in Western Virginia was taxed, while a large portion of the property of the rich man, better able to pay, was exempt. The hour of half-past 10 having arrived, the President stated that the Convention would go into Committee of the Whole, for the further co
Augusta (Georgia, United States) (search for this): article 1
says it may reside in a Government.--Secession was regarded by Mr. Scott as a revolutionary remedy, but he should uphold it as the last resort. Mr. Goode, of Mecklenburg, had listened to all the arguments with pleasure and satisfaction, and if he consulted his own feelings he would be content to have the ayes and noes taken upon the question at once. But some of the positions advanced by gentlemen on this floor, he conceived, ought not to go unanswered. In reply to the gentleman from Augusta, who had stated that Virginia was stepped from any complaint against the action of the General Government, because she had ratified the several compromise acts, he argued that those concessions were extorted from her; that her consent was influenced by a patriotic desire to preserve the peace and prevent the destruction of the Union. That consideration, he considered, was a potent reason why she should now turn her back upon the people who were so basely ungrateful for the efforts she had
United States (United States) (search for this): article 1
tan, moved to amend the amendment by adding after the word "sovereign," the words "over all powers not granted to the United States by the Constitution of the United States." Mr. Fisher, of Northampton, asked if there was any person in the UnitUnited States who deemed that proposition? The Chairman.--That is not for the Chair to decide. Mr. Fisher desired to have something tangible to vote upon. Mr. Conrad, of Frederick, thought that altogether too much stress was placed upon tat they owed no allegiance to the Federal Government, it was still certain that they could commit treason against the United States. Mr. Hall, of Wetzell, desired to ask a question. If the Senators representing the thirty-four States should wio do so? Mr. Scott.--Why, sir, the Government would, in that case, be broken up. I regard the sovereignty of the United States to be in the States in their collective capacity, or in three-fourths of them, in which lies the power to alter or ab
Mecklenburg (North Carolina, United States) (search for this): article 1
reign power would there be to compel them to do so? Mr. Scott.--Why, sir, the Government would, in that case, be broken up. I regard the sovereignty of the United States to be in the States in their collective capacity, or in three-fourths of them, in which lies the power to alter or abolish the Constitution, though Vatteli says it may reside in a Government.--Secession was regarded by Mr. Scott as a revolutionary remedy, but he should uphold it as the last resort. Mr. Goode, of Mecklenburg, had listened to all the arguments with pleasure and satisfaction, and if he consulted his own feelings he would be content to have the ayes and noes taken upon the question at once. But some of the positions advanced by gentlemen on this floor, he conceived, ought not to go unanswered. In reply to the gentleman from Augusta, who had stated that Virginia was stepped from any complaint against the action of the General Government, because she had ratified the several compromise acts, he
Virginia (Virginia, United States) (search for this): article 1
against the resolution as amended, for he was perfectly satisfied with it in its original form. He contended that the word sovereign, in this connection, was inapplicable, for sovereignty implied supremacy. The proposition stood in the dilemma of the Scotchman who was addressing an audience on metaphysics; the audience did not understand the Scotchman, nor did he understand himself. Mr. Scott took the position that the Federal Government had the power to execute its laws in the State of Virginia, and the people had no right to prevent it. These powers had been granted. For what time had they been granted? Could they be resumed at pleasure? The very preamble of the old Articles of Confederation declared that the old Union was perpetual. To make a more perfect Union, the thirteen States agreed to the alteration of the Articles of Confederation. He held that the powers granted to the Federal Constitution were granted forever, unless changed in conformity with the terms of th
South Carolina (South Carolina, United States) (search for this): article 1
on States, he would think this was a high court sitting in judgment upon the action of those States, and particularly South Carolina.--It was affirmed that they acted precipitately, and without consulting Virginia. He contended that South Carolina aSouth Carolina and Mississippi did seek to consult with her, and she declined; and to prove that their purpose was to abide by the result of the Conference, he produced extracts from the addresses of Mr. Memminger, Commissioner from South Carolina, and Gen. Starke, South Carolina, and Gen. Starke, Commissioner from Mississippi, before the Legislature of Virginia. The destruction consequent upon the refusal of Virginia, then foretold, had come to pass. Gentlemen might sing hymns and psalms and plans to the Union, but it was destroyed, and he was left almost alone under an abolitionized Government. In conclusion, Mr. Goode paid a tribute to the gallantry of South Carolina, and prayed that Virginia might soon follow in her footsteps. Mr. Seawell, of Gloucester, said that he was glad
Glocester (Massachusetts, United States) (search for this): article 1
report of the Committee on Federal Relations, the pending question being on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Gloucester, (Mr. Seawell,) to insert in the fifth line of the first resolution, after the word"sovereignties, " the words "and stie to the gallantry of South Carolina, and prayed that Virginia might soon follow in her footsteps. Mr. Seawell, of Gloucester, said that he was glad that the gentleman from Powhatan, (Mr. Scott,) had disclosed the motive which induced him to offt and render acceptable the propositions under consideration. He advocated the amendment offered by the gentleman from Gloucester, and made an argument upon the question of sovereignty. Mr. Moore, of Rockbridge, hoped the discussion would shortsaid the question was upon the amendment offered by the gentleman from Powhatan, to the amendment of the gentleman from Gloucester. Mr. Wise called for the reading of the amendment, and it was accordingly read by the Secretary. Mr. Wise the
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