Plato, Alcibiades 1, section 116d

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[116d]

Socrates
And that good things are expedient?

Alcibiades
Yes.

Socrates
Hence just things, Alcibiades, are expedient.

Alcibiades
So it seems.

Socrates
Well now, are not you the speaker of all this, and I the questioner?

Alcibiades
I seem to be, apparently.

Socrates
So if anyone stands up to advise either the Athenians or the Peparethians,¹ imagining that he understands what is just and unjust, and says that just things are sometimes evil, could you do other than laugh him to scorn, since you actually say yourself that

1 Peparethus is a small island off the coast of Thessaly.

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 8 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1955.

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