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[134a]

Alcibiades
No, indeed.

Socrates
Nor will he know what he is doing.

Alcibiades
No, I agree.

Socrates
And will not he who does not know make mistakes?

Alcibiades
To be sure.

Socrates
And when he makes mistakes, will he not do ill both in private and in public?

Alcibiades
Of course.

Socrates
And doing ill he will be wretched?

Alcibiades
Yes, very.

Socrates
And what of those for whom he is doing so?

Alcibiades
They will be wretched also.

Socrates
Then it is impossible to be happy if one is not temperate and good.

Alcibiades
Impossible.


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