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Socrates
Stop. Now we must tell what there is in this that is faulty and lacks art, must we not?Phaedrus
Yes.Socrates
It is clear to everyone that we are in accord about some matters of this kind and at variance about others, is it not?Phaedrus
I think I understand your meaning, but express it still more clearly.Socrates
When one says “iron” or “silver,” we all understand the same thing, do we not?Phaedrus
Surely.Socrates
What if he says “justice” or “goodness”? Do we not part company, and disagree with each other and with ourselves?Phaedrus
Certainly.
Stop. Now we must tell what there is in this that is faulty and lacks art, must we not?Phaedrus
Yes.Socrates
It is clear to everyone that we are in accord about some matters of this kind and at variance about others, is it not?Phaedrus
I think I understand your meaning, but express it still more clearly.Socrates
When one says “iron” or “silver,” we all understand the same thing, do we not?Phaedrus
Surely.Socrates
What if he says “justice” or “goodness”? Do we not part company, and disagree with each other and with ourselves?Phaedrus
Certainly.