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[163b] whereas that which does not change neither comes into being nor perishes?” “That is inevitable.” “Then the non-existent one, when it is changed, comes into being and perishes, and when it is not changed, neither comes into being nor perishes and thus the non-existent one both comes into being and perishes and neither comes into being nor perishes.” “Quite true.”

“Let us now go back again to the beginning and see whether the conclusions we reach will be the same as at present, or different.” “Yes, we should do that.” “We ask, then, if the one is not,

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