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[246d] into matter, it is more difficult, perhaps even almost impossible, to get it. However, this is the way I think we must deal with them.

What way?

Our first duty would be to make them really better, if it were in any way possible; but if this cannot be done, let us pretend that they are better, by assuming that they would be willing to answer more in accordance with the rules of dialectic than they actually are. For the acknowledgement of anything by better men is more valid than if made by worse men. But it is not these men that we care about; we merely seek the truth.

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