Plato, Gorgias, section 514b

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[514b] first as to whether we understood the art of building or not, and from whom we had learnt it? Would we have to do this, or not?

Callicles
Certainly.

Socrates
And so again, in the second place, whether we had ever erected any building privately for one of our friends or for ourselves, and whether such building was handsome or ugly? And if we found on consideration that we had been under good and reputable masters,

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 3 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1967.

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