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[449a] for you at first, and you answered him properly in brief words, in the same way you must now state what is that art, and what we ought to call Gorgias; or rather, Gorgias, do you tell us yourself in what art it is you are skilled, and hence, what we ought to call you.

Gorgias
Rhetoric, Socrates.

Socrates
So we are to call you a rhetorician ?

Gorgias
Yes, and a good one, if you would call me what—to use Homer's phrase—“I vaunt myself to be.”1

Socrates
Well, I shall be pleased to do so.

Gorgias
Then call me such.


1 The regular phrase of a Homeric hero in boasting of his valor, parentage, etc.; cf. Hom. Il. 6.211, Hom. Il. 14.113.

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 3 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1967.

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