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[966b]

Athenian
Well then, ought they to discern it, but be unable to give a verbal demonstration of it?

Clinias
Impossible! The state of mind you describe is that of a slave.

Athenian
Well then, do we hold the same view about all forms of goodness, that those who are to be real wardens of the laws must really know the true nature of them, and be capable both of expounding it in word and conforming to it in deed, passing judgment on fair actions and foul according to their real character?

Clinias
Certainly.

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