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[670c] in time; and they fail to comprehend that, in doing each of these things, they do them in ignorance. But the fact is that every tune which has its appropriate elements is correct, but incorrect if the elements are inappropriate.

Clinias
Undoubtedly.

Athenian
What then of the man who does not know in the least what the tune's elements are? Will he ever know about any tune, as we said, that it is correct?

Clinias
There is no possible means of his doing so.

Athenian
We are now once more, as it appears, discovering the fact that these singers of ours (whom we are now inviting

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