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Protarchus
Certainly there would be no sense in that.

Socrates
Then if that is not the case, it would be better to follow the other line of thought and say, as we have often said, that there is in the universe a plentiful infinite and a sufficient limit, and in addition a by no means feeble cause which orders and arranges years and seasons and months, and may most justly be called wisdom and mind.

Protarchus
Yes, most justly.

Socrates
Surely reason and mind could never come into being without soul.

Protarchus
No, never.

Socrates
Then in the nature of Zeus you would say that a kingly soul


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