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30. κἂν πάνυ πολὺν οἶνον πίωσιν: like Socrates in the Symposium: see 220A, 223C. In Laws, I. 637B ff. Plato argues that wine properly used is the means of teaching self-control, since the man who will be σώφρων when drunk will a fortiori be σώφρων when sober: cf. ibid. II. 673E ff.

31. ἐὰν μὲν κτλ. μέν suggests that in different society the same would not be the case—an antithesis which is already expressed in 347CD. Cf. Apol. 17B εἰ μὲν γὰρ τοῦτο λέγουσιν, ὁμολογοίην ἂν ἔγωγε οὐ κατὰ τούτους εἶναι ῥήτωρ. For λάβωνται cf. (with Sauppe) Symp. 218A νέου ψυχῆς μὴ ἀφυοῦς ὅταν λάβωνται cf. (sc. οἱ ἐν φιλοσοφίᾳ λόγοι).

33. οὔτε ἀνερέσθαιἐπαγόμενοί τε: for the sentiment see on 329Aabove: for οὔτετε on 309B for αὐτούς after οὕς on 313A ἐπάγεσθαι is the regular word for ‘cite’, e.g. Rep. II. 364C μάρτυρας ποιητὰς ἐπάγονται.

36. ἀδυνατοῦσιν: , not in B and T, was restored by Heindorf: it has since been found in a Vienna MS.

38. ἐῶσιν: the subject is supplied from ἀνδρῶν οἷοίπερ ἡμῶν οἱ πολλοί φασιν εἶναι.

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