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ὡρισάμεθα κτλ. See 597 E f. From ἀλλὰ καὶ δεύτερος we may infer that “the actual law-giver, in Plato's view, is second from reality” (Bosanquet).

τίς τῶν πόλεων κτλ. Contrast Symp. 209 C ff. where Homer and Hesiod are linked with Lycurgus, Solon, καὶ ἄλλοι ἄλλοθι πολλαχοῦ ἄνδρες, καὶ ἐν Ἕλλησι καὶ ἐν βαρβάροις, πολλὰ καὶ καλὰ ἀποφηνάμενοι ἔργα, γεννήσαντες παντοίαν ἀρετήν.

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