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[358b] he said, “hear what I too have to say and see if you agree with me. For Thrasymachus seems to me to have given up to you too soon, as if he were a serpent1 that you had charmed, but I am not yet satisfied with the proof that has been offered about justice and injustice. For what I desire is to hear what each of them is and what potency and effect it has in and of itself dwelling in the soul,2 but to dismiss their rewards and consequences. This, then, is what I propose to do, with your concurrence. I will renew

1 For Plato's fondness for the idea of κηλεῖν Cf. The Unity of Plato's Thought, note 500.

2 Cf. 366 E.

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