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[585a] they truly think themselves to be, and really are, in a state of pain, but, when they move from pain to the middle and neutral state, they intensely believe that they are approaching fulfillment and pleasure, and just as if, in ignorance of white, they were comparing grey with black,1 so, being inexperienced in true pleasure, they are deceived by viewing painlessness in its relation to pain?” “No, by Zeus,” he said, “it would not surprise me, but far rather if it were not so.” “In this way, then, consider it.2 Are not hunger and thirst and similar states inanitions or emptinesses3

1 Cf. Aristot.Met. 1011 b 30-31 and Eth. Nic. 1154 a 30διὰ τὸ παρὰ τὸ ἐναντίον φαίνεσθαι.

2 The argument from the parallel of body and mind here belongs to what we have called confirmation. Cf. What Plato Said, p. 528, on Phaedo 78 B, The figurative use of repletion and nutrition is not to be pressed in proof of contradictions with the Philebus or Gorgias. Cf. Matthew v. 6 “Hunger and thirst after righteousness.”

3 For κενώσεις Cf. Phileb. 35 B, 42 C-D, Tim. 65 A.

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