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they must assist and minister in all the business of war
and serve their fathers and mothers. Or have you never noticed the practice
in the arts, how for example the sons of potters look on as helpers a long
time before they put their hands to the clay?” “They do,
indeed.” “Should these then be more concerned than our
guardians to train the children by observation and experience of what is to
be their proper business?” “That would be
ridiculous,” he said. “But, further, when it comes to
fighting,
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